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Posted by: Mon Bidoux Posted on: Nov 19th, 2006, 10:00am
This is a long term project and so i need some careful planning.
 
There's a collection of books that have text and images that i would like to place on a CD someday...  1Site seems to be able to handle some 5,000 pages plus images.
 
What i need to have is a search engine once the project is finished.  Is this possible?  How effective will it be?
 
Then, there are of course lots of dates/events that interact within the text.  What is the best way to name these links so that we can click from one to another?  Type 1958/09/10 to identify the file/link name?
 
It's a big and long term project so i would appreciate any feedback before i start out.
Posted by: Support Staff Posted on: Nov 19th, 2006, 10:55am
Hi! 1SITE can manage up to 5000 pages per file so you should divide in 3 files.
 
As for the search engine, an efficient search engine normally is a software (a "script") installed on the server.
 
Check your server's "Control Panel" it is likely there is a preinstalled search engine. If not, ask your host, they will be able to install a search engine.
 
Typically, when a search engine is installed, there is a simple code to be placed within a page... well "code" as historically tech people has the habit to supply code... to speack more "popular" well this code (usually) translates to these "visual" actions:
- you insert a form start marker that contains the name of the search engine script
- you insert a box (where people will enter things to be searched)
- maybe some "hidden" form elements with instructions to be passed to the script
- a submit button (the search button that the end user will have to press).
 
In case you already used a "form to mail" script the thing is very similar. Dig "form to mail" or "form mail" in the top search box (hey! that's a search engine! ).
 
As for the date format, the standard you proposed seems to me the best one
year/month/day
is great.
 
The search engine will (usually) search "full text" so you won't have to do special things on pages, but to use that format for the dates would be very handy: as you may know, europeans use
day/month/year
while americans use
month/day/year
 
to use the scientific
year/month/day
 
will avoid misunderstanding and problems both to european and americans
Posted by: Mon Bidoux Posted on: Nov 19th, 2006, 12:49pm
Thank you Support for the feedback.
 
The books have chapters of about 5 pages each.
If i identify each chapter as say:  
1-2-25 meaning book no.1, chapter no.2, page no.25 then i should be able to place everything into one single file?
 
With regards to the search engine...
I was thinking more with regards to the exported .html file that i would place on a CD instead a web server.  At least for the first step.
Is this possible?
Posted by: Support Staff Posted on: Nov 20th, 2006, 10:23am
I think you should not use a separate file for each chapter if the chapters are just 5 pages. Try to have files as big as possible (it's more handy).
 
As for the CD, for CDs we have CDFrontEnd. Same interface of 1Site, can open 1Site files, can create CDs with internal search engine without any effort (and without scattered html files).
www.cdfrontend.com
 
It can also protect the CDs, if needed.
 
Posted by: OPTSOURCE- Posted on: Feb 20th, 2007, 3:20pm
I`m tring to put my inventory on search through quickbooks, is this possible? Or should I just have an inventory page with a search bar on top? I`m not so fromilaiar with web-site designing with a search option, will appreciate any help.
 
feel free to e-mail me or reply post.
Posted by: Support Staff Posted on: Feb 20th, 2007, 3:24pm
The fast way is to highlight a text block (e.g. "Click here to show the search dialog"),
Insert >Special link
then the last tab, there is a search option.
Once published, a click on the link will show the search dialog, powered by Google.
This could help searching your web site, and is completely automatic.
 
If this is not sufficient, as said above, you need a search engine installed on your server. In fact, as the Internet pages, once published, are on the Web server, then you need a program installed on the server (usually called "search engine") that will perform the search. I copy from above:
 
Quote:

As for the search engine, an efficient search engine normally is a software (a "script") installed on the server.
 
Check your server's "Control Panel" it is likely there is a preinstalled search engine. If not, ask your host, they will be able to install a search engine.
 
Typically, when a search engine is installed, there is a simple code to be placed within a page... well "code" as historically tech people has the habit to supply code... to speack more "popular" well this code (usually) translates to these "visual" actions:
- you insert a form start marker that contains the name of the search engine script
- you insert a box (where people will enter things to be searched)
- maybe some "hidden" form elements with instructions to be passed to the script
- a submit button (the search button that the end user will have to press).
 
In case you already used a "form to mail" script the thing is very similar. Dig "form to mail" or "form mail" in the top search box (hey! that's a search engine! ).  

Posted by: Mon Bidoux Posted on: Feb 20th, 2007, 3:52pm
In other words, if you have FrontPage and required extensions enabled on server you're okay!
 
TreePadBusiness offer a freebie that allows you to search a document composed in this program. Couldn't 1stSite have something similar?
 
Now that would be cool!!    
Posted by: Support Staff Posted on: Feb 21st, 2007, 6:44am
Hi! First of all, within the new version there is a simple search feature powered by Google.
 
By the way, we had our server extensions, but then we dropped them. Microsoft can force servers to install their own extensions (even if some features are not great for security), unfortunately we can't.
 
Nowadays all web servers have a pre-installed search script, so to have a search feature is not a difficult task. You activate the search, then usually you have to add into a page
 
1) a form start marker, type "POST", with the path of the script, something like
 
http://www.yourserver.com/cgi-bin/nicesearch.pl
 
2) a form box element, the identifier could be "q" or "searchstring"
 
3) a form submit button
 
(both these 3 components can be inserted with the Insert menu)
 
and then you are done.
It is not complicated and you don't have the bad side effects of the "server extensions".
 
 


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